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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:28 pm

From now on, the Democratic Primary season must coincide with a Ghostbusters culture war.
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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:10 pm

Diane Feinstein is human detritus.
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Re: Democrats

Postby bralbovsky » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:40 pm

Diane Feinstein is old. If she's the basement on detritus, then we'll be ditching most of 100 million people, assuming the metric is bombast and self importance. If you throw plain old selfish cussedness in, well, I think smallpox might be a less costly population trade.

Ya, it's time she got it or went away. To be fair, it's time party politics didn't make most elections pro forma; it's time profit wasn't more important than public health; it's time for a lot of things.

I submit that collectively there's no point in being upset about curmudgeonly and ignorant, until we start to react to malicious and dishonest.
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Re: Democrats

Postby Phoebe » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:45 pm

This amused me:

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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:56 pm

This strongly suggests Cohen had no clue what he was pleading to in the SDNY case and took whatever bait the Dems threw at him

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/cohen- ... 1551306276
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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:31 pm

ugh what bernie Bro or russian agent is behind this smh

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol ... story.html
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Re: Democrats

Postby Mike » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:24 pm

Is $1.1 million over a span of six years a lot for an organization with 5000 employees? I honestly have no way to put this in context.
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Postby bralbovsky » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:18 pm

It's a lot, but California is a big state, and the article really slides around as far as dates and connections.

Once again, though, if she suffers for it, it's only because there's accountability expected in one party. If she was a republican, it wouldn't matter as much. (Especially since some of the cited cases seem to be male/male)

Bonus quest: Since the republicans are never (and I know what that means) going to come around on the facts for high crimes, etc... Some democrat is going to need to coalesce a tight, convincing narrative for impeachment that will have to force them either to positively accept to condemn the behavior. This frog boiling, ho hum, every politician lies, circus needs to be brought to and end. Then, maybe, we can get to an election with less panic chemistry.
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Re: Democrats

Postby buckett » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:12 pm

If she was a Republican it would be spun as a "tough on crime" positive.
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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:51 pm

It doesn't make sense to endorse Bernie Sanders until you know who he wants for his running mate. He will be 79 years old when he takes office. The DSA could be handing power to someone like Kamala Harris. It's dangerous.
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Re: Democrats

Postby bralbovsky » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:15 pm

Concur that Sanders and Biden should both have declared backup.
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Re: Democrats

Postby poorpete » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 pm

I wish some on the DSA left could see clearly that, although the US has been beyond-terrible to Latin America and especially socialist governments within, that doesn't mean that Venesuela's socialist-turned-authoritarian regime doesn't absolutely suck.
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Re: Democrats

Postby Phoebe » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:21 am

I feel like the media is bored/frustrated with the whole Trump era and has now seized on any little bullshit with the nascent Democratic presidential race as fodder for expanded bullshit. This is how they destroy things - not because they're fake news, but because they seem to have no sense of the larger picture and how their many little choices cause real harm. It's like a dog chasing a fly this way and that, oblivious of everything else going on. There's a lack of intellectual curiosity about what is happening in the world that might be interesting product for their audience. The big media journalists live in a kind of coastal bubble that prevents them from realizing whatever is hoppin on their DC/NYC focused twitters is of zero interest or importance to most people in the country.

Meanwhile, administration has shown itself very chill with the Saudi's assassinating a Washington Post journalist in the most horrifying way, and continues to call the press enemy of the people. I don't think he's joking, you guys. He's not joking.
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Re: Democrats

Postby Mike » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:50 pm

Media companies in the U.S. do whatever gets them the most viewers, the most clicks, the most whatever metric they're using... whatever makes the most money.

The only major news organization with overarching guiding principles that cause them to occasionally forego the cash grab in favor of some moral stance is Fox News.

There are definitely other things that might be interesting to some consumers, but what they're doing now is what draws THE MOST consumers.
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Re: Democrats

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Re: Democrats

Postby Mike » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:03 am

3 hours later. Same news outlet:

https://nypost.com/2019/03/08/ilhan-oma ... a-remarks/

Sounds like there might be some nuance, so I'm bailing.
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Re: Democrats

Postby mimekiller » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:26 am

she softened her stance but the point remains

God help this country if someone as handsome as Obama but with the views of Trump comes to power.
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Re: Democrats

Postby Phoebe » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:29 pm

It feels like you're saying that Trump is less handsome than Obama. I'm pretty sure that's the worst sort of political crime these days and you should keep that quiet.
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Re: Democrats

Postby FlameBlade » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:38 pm

Amazing how news are focused so hard on Dems' squabbling which is pretty minor, and blown out of proportion when compared to all the grafting that Trump administration is doing.

I mean, access to Chinese executives?
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Re: Democrats

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